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What do you think about $3b Lumbini Project? What could be your suggestion on this project?

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on November 3, 2011

This discussion question was raised in Nepal Development Forum and the full discussion is posted here for readers’ information.

What do you think about 3 billion dollar Lumbini Project? What could be your suggestion on this project?

If you are not aware about this project visit:http://ramkshrestha.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/what-happened-to-the-dream-of-a-buddhist-mecca/ and http://ramkshrestha.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/the-lumbini-project-chinas-3-billion-for-buddhism/ and also available in http://completenepal.wordpress.com/ andhttps://worldamity.wordpress.com/

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Govinda ThapaBhavana Rana and 3 others like this

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Govinda ThapaBhavana Rana and 3 others like this

35 comments

Pramod Shrestha • This amount should be considered as a big opportunity . First of all, there is no doubt, we will be utilized in developing infrastructures, hospitality. International Airprt, high class hotel and services will be among them. Everyone knows the concept is to develop Lumbini as a buddhist pilgrim city with all modern facilities for guest. We should be a

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Ramesh Chandra Adhikari • Very exciting and necessary project to enhance our tourism business.

There will be so many obstacles in implementation. By the result we wont get outcome within time frame and with good quality. If any project does not complete with designed quality within desired time frame that project will not be considered as successful project.There may arise vested interests from different groups like local community, political parties and so many others in extended time. So if the project starts we may need to spend some time to be as watch dog for constructing agency and aware local community not to obstacle the project.As we are aware that these days most of our big projects have been affected mostly by local communities and groups.To discourage them our input may be needed.I think in this context we can contribute something from our side.

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Ram Kumar  Shrestha

Ram Kumar Shrestha • This is the comment from Kapilvastu Day Movement blog ( link:https://worldamity.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/another-chinese-foundation-plans-to-raise-3b-to-make-lumbini-magnet-for-buddhists/#comment-968) for you kind information: Suman said

June 25, 2011 at 10:22 am
…. …..$3b project in Nepal…..it is a huge amount…..fast trains and Buddhist’s main holy place……oh! Tourism ….development….
This is called a DEAL…..!!!! thanks to every body who made such big effort……
$3B is a huge amount…..i am working in $3b project……making new city project…..so I know how big this amount is……..all Nepalese will know…..power of money and instant change….
Hope we can make WORLD’s BEST tourist place on earth…..we need more such big projects……in the future…..

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Govinda Thapa • I am extremely positive towards this proposal. Neither we nor any other friendly country or international agency could do it more than last half century. China has been providing billions of dollar to Africa and other countries. China on the otherhand has not any territorial interest in Nepal. While India does not hesitate to claim Lumbini of its own and in fact it has been doing so also. Therefore, if China comes forward to develop Lumbini as a modern Buddhist hub like Mecca Madina for muslims and Vetican for christians, we should welcome it without any hitch.

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Ram Kumar Shrestha • Yes Govindajee, India faking Lumbini and if you have not gone through this clip pls have a look: https://worldamity.wordpress.com/2010/04/03/duplicate-kapilvastu2/ Government is responsible to deal with this issue, but government is not serious with its duties and, hence, Kapilvastu Day Movement was started. Even after submitting letter to the Prime Minister (https://worldamity.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/petition-to-p/) government doing nothing. May be soon the Movement will submit another letter to the government. This $3b project is, therefore, very important to catalyze dismissing the misinformation created by India.

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Rajendra UPRETI • Yes, India is faking Lumbini, people living in the boarder area are suffering; as Chadkya says ‘your neighbour is your enemy but your neighbour neighbour is your friend’ ; We are under such situation due to our poor political mechanism that India can say anything..!! regarding the project in Lumbini.. Look at Pashupati Nath Area Development Fund; amount of money and amount of work; Everyone is corrupted in this country.. and Lumbini with this fund makes another example.. and I reckon that one day; India will come up with such Evidence that prove Buddha was born there because of our carelessness then we have lost a lot especially while Department of Archaeology was sleeping and rich countries know the value. No one has seen the history but the evidence prove and we are so incompetent to preserve anything that we have.

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Ram Kumar Shrestha • Friends who are not aware about Kapilvastu Day Movement these links could be beneficial (specially first two as they have lots of relevant links):
https://worldamity.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/kdm/http://ramkshrestha.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/buddha-lumbini-and-fake-lumbini/http://completenepal.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/bfbs-mulbato/

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Govinda Thapa • In this case GON will not be the implementing agency. China will not give the money to the hand of Nepalese authorities. They are very clear on the fact that Nepalese may misuse the fund. So they themselves will develop the area by using their own money. So there is no chance of misuse of money by Nepalis. But the problem is that India will create problem in one way or the other to prevent this project from being materialized. They will even try their best to topple this government, which is positive to this project and place the government that serves Indian interests. Media is reporting that India has already raised its eyebrow about this project. Be sure that India will not remain quiet without disturbing it. They will not allow China to come closer to the Border.

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Sita Bhandari • Amicable step from china…Definitely, will open up huge tourism avenue in Nepal as an attractive tourist destination …though the project may have some complications but will be a landmark for the prosperity of Nepal on its completion..May be wise if we plan proactively for other opportunity we can trap therein… Read the rest of this entry »

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लुम्बिनी भ्रमण बर्ष २०१२ मनाउन गरिएको निर्णयको सम्बन्धमा प्रेस बिज्ञप्ति

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on October 19, 2011

बुद्धद्धारा प्रतिपादित सुख र शान्ति प्राप्तीका लागि अबलम्बन गरिनु पर्ने सिद्धान्त र बिधिहरु बुद्धिज्मको रुपमा बिस्व प्रसिद्ध भएका कारण बुद्ध जन्मनु भएको स्थानको बिस्वब्यापी महत्व छ  । त्यसैले ब्यक्तिगत खुशी र सुखीदेखि बिस्व शान्तिसम्मका लागि उत्प्रेरक, प्रेरणादायी र आस्थाका पुन्ज उहाँ करीब २६०० बर्ष अघि जन्मेर पनि यो बैज्ञानिक युगमा समेत आजको अशान्तमय बिस्व परिबेशका कारण संपूर्ण जाती, धर्म, सम्प्रदायका बीच झन झन महत्व बढदै जाने सदाबहार सर्ब स्वीकार्य महामानबका रुपमा स्थापित हुनुहुन्छ । त्यसैले युनेस्कोले बुद्ध जन्मस्थल लुम्बिनीलाई बिस्व संपदा सूचिमा  समाबेश गरेको हो १९९७ मा । बिस्वमा करीब ५० करोड बुद्धिस्ट छन भने बिस्वभरि बुद्धिज्मलाई धर्मभन्दा बिज्ञानको रुपमा लिने पनि लाखौं छन । र उक्त संख्याको ०.१ प्रतिशत मात्र पर्यटक बर्षेनी भित्र्याउने बातावरण तयार गर्न सकियो भने पनि बर्षमा ५ लाखभन्दा बढी पर्यटक भित्रिने देखिन्छ र यसबाट मात्रै अरबौं रुपयाँ देश भित्र्याउन सकिने देखिन्छ । Read the rest of this entry »

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UN supports APECF’s Lumbini plan: Xiao Wunan

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on September 14, 2011

REPUBLICA

There has been great excitement, debate and controversy about the plans of the Asia Pacific Exchange and Cooperation Foundation (APECF) to mobilize investment of US$3 billion for the development of Lumbini as a Special Development Zone (SDZ). Purna Basnet caught up with Xiao Wunan, executive vice-chairman of APECF in Four Seasons Hotel, Hong Kong last Friday to shed more lights on the issue.

EXCERPTS:

What is the current position of the Lumbini plan?

It is in the planning stage. Some reports said China is investing US$3 billion but without a feasibility study no one can invest such a big amount. We will hire a professional team for planning, which will take about one year. We hope that will happen faster but it will certainly take at least six months. APECF needs a concrete idea to come to Lumbini. APECF signed the MoU with UN Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO), Beijing, for feasibility study. UNIDO is a consultant for planning and framework designer of the project.

Was a MoU actually signed with UNIDO?

Yes, but there has been some misunderstanding and distortion in this regard. The misunderstanding was that UNIDO would get a slice of the profits. But that’s not the case; UNIDO was acting as a consultant for planning.

But the UNIDO headquarters refused to recognize the MoU. What is your take on that?

I cannot answer this question on the record.

Don´t you think that the MoU signed by APECF and UNIDO in Beijing is against Nepal’s national sovereignty?

It is a part of the process. When we wanted to do this project, we needed to get the approval of Nepal. Before signing the MoU with UNIDO, I met more than 10 members of the cabinet of Nepal, including the finance and deputy prime minister and culture minister. UNIDO as a consultant was advising us on whether or not to go ahead with this project and how to carry it out.

We hired five organizations, among them a famous US think tank, to study the possibility of this project and a bank to advise us on the investment risks. So, before all these study reports come out, we would not know what the political, economic and social risks are. The MoU was signed just for feasibility study. Lumbini belongs to Nepal and Nepali people are going to benefit from it. So this is not against Nepal´s national sovereignty. Read the rest of this entry »

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What happened to the dream of a Buddhist Mecca?

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on July 21, 2011

By Sanjaya Dhakal

In the hot, dusty plains of south-western Nepal sits Lumbini, one of the holiest places for about 350 million Buddhists

Some monasteries have been built at Lumbini - but the master plan for its development remain incomplete

around the world.

Centuries ago a baby was born in Lumbini who went on to become the Buddha and many have long cherished plans that Lumbini could be developed into a Buddhist destination, comparable to Mecca, Islam’s holiest site.

But now buildings sit half-finished and empty fields lie neglected. More than a decade after Unesco designated it a World Heritage Site, Lumbini runs the risk of slipping into obscurity and promises to transform the site remain unfulfilled.

The most recent announcement was made by a Chinese group called the Asia Pacific Exchange and Co-operation Foundation, which declared it would raise $3bn (£1.9bn) to develop Lumbini by constructing airports, highways and hotels.

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LUMBINI

  • Located in the south-western Nepali plains 300km from Kathmandu and very close to India’s border
  • Birthplace of Siddhartha Gautama, probably around 566BCE, who later become the Buddha
  • Designated a Unesco World Heritage Site in 1997
  • Surrounded by large zone in which only monasteries can be built and no commercial premises
  • The site has a number of ancient ruins of monasteries, a sacred Bo Tree and a bathing pool – more is yet to be excavated

But both the Nepalese or Chinese government authorities claim to be in the dark about the grandiose scheme. The group insists that it is preparing a five-year plan to implement their idea of “developing Lumbini like a Mecca city”.

Yet it is unclear what stage the proposals are at and whether they will truly see the light of day.

Another Chinese organisation has proposed building a 100-metre-tall statue of the Buddha in Lumbini at a cost of more than $55m (£35m). The Nepal government has accepted this proposal but the groundwork is yet to begin. Read the rest of this entry »

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The Lumbini project: China’s $3 billion for Buddhism

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on July 16, 2011

By Melissa Chan

The town of Lumbini in Nepal is where the Buddha was born as Prince Gautama Siddhartha, before achieving

”]enlightenment more than 2,500 years ago. Now China is leading a project worth $3bn to transform the small town into the premier place of pilgrimage for Buddhists from around the world.  Little Lumbini will have an airport, highway, hotels, convention centre, temples and a Buddhist university. That’s in addition to the installation of water, electricity and communication lines it currently lacks.

That’s a lot of money anywhere – but especially for a country like Nepal whose GDP was $35bn last year. That means the project is worth almost 10 per cent of the country’s GDP. So what does China want back?

The organization behind the project is called the Asia Pacific Exchange and Cooperation Foundation (APECF), a quasi-governmental non-governmental organisation. Its executive vice president, Xiao Wunan, is a member of the Communist Party and holds a position at the National Development and Reform Commission, a state agency.

On Friday, APECF held a signing ceremony for the project with the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO). Read the rest of this entry »

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